Trust me I’m a doctor….
May 14, 2008 by Polly Styrene
Doctors are very special people. I know this because doctors, retired or current, phone me at work sometimes. And unlike any other member of the public, who do not, by and large, tell me their job title, most of them seem compelled to tell me that they are/have been a doctor. Sometimes we get e-mails that have a special URL with the word ’doctor’ in, so you know it’s from a doctor. I don’t know why this is - my work is absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with medicine. And actually my workplace employs lots of doctors (of philosophy, not medicine) who are specialists in the field. Unlike people who went to medical school. However from this we must conclude that there is a special course in medical school which is entitled “how to think you are an expert on absolutely any subject under the sun, when you’re not”
Now I must stress that I am not one of those people who are routinely anti any kind of medical intervention. I happily swill down the products of big Pharma (hormone replacement therapy) and you would have to fight me to snatch them from my hot little hand. I would not be taking such products however if I had relied on the diagnosis of my GP who told me I had reactive depression because I was “too young to be menopausal”, and I presume my bones would be crumbling as we speak while I necked prozac. So from this I conclude that medical school teaches you that women reach menopause at exactly age 50 with no variation, and that if you want to know what’s wrong with you - go to the surgery armed with a diagnosis and be prepared to argue.
But I am sceptical. Yes the lives of people in my family have been saved by medical intervention. But when it comes to those ‘women’s troubles’ which actually form a huge part of the medical profession’s work, there are major problems, largely caused by the attitude that the “patient” - maybe it’s time doctors started calling them ”customers” like everyone else? - is supposed to be a bovine creature,(yes I know) waiting for the medical wisdom to be dispensed from on high, and in no way questioning it.
Of course medicine has a long and dishonourable history of pathologising females. Like hysteria caused supposedly by the womb wandering about the body. Later adopted by everyone’s favourite crackhead, Sigmund Freud. But we’ve outgrown all that stuff surely?
Allecto just wrote about a new blog “Gardasil: women hurt by medicine” set up to highlight the effects of the new vaccine for human papilloma virus, which is now being given to schoolgirls in Australia. Please note this is not being given to schoolboys - despite the fact that HPV is almost exclusively transmitted through heterosexual intercourse. Instead it’s being promoted as a ‘cervical cancer vaccine’. So only girls need it and only girls get the - fairly horrendous, from the stories on the blog, side effects. I won’t even start on the assumption that 12 and 13 year old girls are automatically going to be heterosexual. There are some incidences of abnormal smears appearing in women who have never had sex with men - so it’s a myth that lesbians don’t need smear tests. But there does seem to be an assumption of compulsory heterosexuality behind the administering of the vaccine to girls so young. Like the rubella vaccine that was recommended when I was at school (this was before MMR) before we ‘reached childbearing age’. Well I still haven’t reached it, sorry.
Anyways let’s move onto another area - medical examinations of women. I was fairly shocked to hear recently from a woman who worked in the NHS that they weren’t allowed to have female only staff in their breast screening units. Apparently the reason behind this is that a number of male staff have taken cases to tribunal claiming this is sex discrimination and because a woman cannot always be guaranteed a female doctor, tribunals have upheld the claims, on the basis that having female staff is not a genuine occupational qualification.
The net result of this is that a lot of women aren’t using the service. I am absolutely amazed that even if the legal position is correct, (which we must assume it is unless it is overturned), someone who is supposedly working in the field of patient care and, we would assume, is concerned about patient health, would take a stance that would make women feel so uncomfortable accessing a service, they would prefer to run the risk of developing cancer.
So women can’t be guaranteed a female medical professional. But at least they can be guaranteed that if they are examined by a man that man isn’t a sex offender can’t they? Well no. I personally know of a couple of women who’ve experienced sexual assaults (and yes, they WERE sexual assaults, helpful trolls - they weren’t part of any medical procedure, they were straightforward assault) from medical professionals. But even better than that is the news that even if a doctor is convicted of a sexual offence, they may still be allowed to carry on practising.
Yes as of September last year, there were 11 doctors free to work in the NHS despite being convicted of sex and child pornography offences. The General Medical Council (GMC) has imposed conditions on six of them but five are free to treat patients unsupervised. Now this is out of 52 cases that came before the GMC, so a hefty 20% of those are still free to practise medicine. One of them could be in a surgery near you and you would never know. Because you’re not allowed to.
I could go on forever, but you get the drift. Doctors - special people. They know everything, they can carry on working even if they are convicted of a sex offence, they don’t seem to feel any need to adhere to the kind of customer service standards everyone else in the f******g western world has to. And most annnoyingly of all they phone me at work and tell me how to do my job. Bastards.
Good choice of video.
I didn’t know that about the breast screening technicians. Not happy as you well may imagine - but of course, women are just Public Property these days, this of course happened when we ceased to be Private Property. FFS.
It is well known that the General Medical Council always protect their ‘own.’ I am not in the least surprised that at least six male doctors although convicted of sexual offences are still being allowed to practice. Of course the GMC is predominantly male so perhaps this explains their reluctance to take away a (male) doctor’s license.
I too didn’t know about male breast screening technicians. But there we supposedly live in a gender equal age!! After all mixed wards within the NHS are still common and this is despite numerous cases (yes numerous cases) of female patients having been raped and/or sexually assaulted by male patients occupying the same wards as female ones.
But then as I always say women are not human so our rights of bodily integrity are irrelevant. As the good Dr. Crippen has demonstrated.
Regarding Gardasil I’ve known for some time this psuedo vaccine is being promoted by the pharmaceutical industry as a magic pill which will reduce the chances of women contracting cervical cancer. Totally untrue and of course one glaring question is why aren’t boys being given this vaccine since HPV is predominantly passed by male to female via penetration not the reverse. I raised this issue and the fact Gardasil does not prevent all strains of HPV but of course the pharmaceutical industry is very powerful, plus women’s and girls’ bodies are not valued as highly as male bodies. Gardasil is just the latest in a number of vaccines which have been promoted to women only and when eventually side effects occur these are always dismissed as isolated cases or it is the fault of the woman herself.
Unfortunately the real issues of Gardasil were derailed because it became an argument between men’s definition of what supposedly comprises female sexual moralities and the ‘common sense’ belief that all girls once they become adults will engage in heterosexual activity. In other words right wing moralists claimed that once a girl has been vaccinated against Gardasil she will automatically become sexually promiscuous whilst the opposing view was ‘it is better to protect girls before they become actively heterosexual.’ Both views totally ignored the real facts which is this vaccine has not been tested sufficiently because the pharmaceutical companies wanted to earn even more profit through continuing to medicalise and pathologise women’s and girls’ bodies.
Hi Polly, okay I do not mean at all to interrupt the thread but I have a question and I couldn’t find a way to email you about it:
Can you send me the link to that video of that woman playing piano singing “Let’s Do It!”? It was absolutely hilarious and I’ve been looking everywhere on YouTube for it and can’t find it.
Thanks!
Lara, it was from Polly’s Panda Porn post:
http://sizeofacow.wordpress.com/2008/03/31/eats-shoots-and-leaves/
The situation with the breast screening technicians is outrageous. For any kind of intimate examination, shouldn’t there be a same-sex medical person present anyway? I would think breast exams would, or should, come under this.
Heart’s blog had one or two mega threads on Gardasil. Unbelieveable that they won’t include boys in any mandatory programme (even though it is largely useless because it doesn’t cover all strains anyway).
Hi Lara
It’s Victoria Wood (also seen above) singing Let’s Do it.
If you put “Victoria Wood let’s do it” into you tube, you’ll get numerous versions but this is one…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZCIKjYDf1g
The video above by the way reminds me powerfully of the bossy girl from my school, who is now, guess what, a GP…..
Hi Polly, sorry to spam you here, but could you please check out Debs latest post about campaigning to get a “24 Hour National Helpline for Victims of Rape and Sexual Assault”? If you agree with the idea, do you think you could post about it to let other people know?
Thanks!
“Please note this is not being given to schoolboys - despite the fact that HPV is almost exclusively transmitted through heterosexual intercourse. Instead it’s being promoted as a ‘cervical cancer vaccine’. So only girls need it and only girls get the - fairly horrendous, from the stories on the blog, side effects. I won’t even start on the assumption that 12 and 13 year old girls are automatically going to be heterosexual. There are some incidences of abnormal smears appearing in women who have never had sex with men - so it’s a myth that lesbians don’t need smear tests. But there does seem to be an assumption of compulsory heterosexuality behind the administering of the vaccine to girls so young. Like the rubella vaccine that was recommended when I was at school (this was before MMR) before we ‘reached childbearing age’. Well I still haven’t reached it, sorry”
I think it is heteronormativity on their parts, but unfortunately women are raped and can contract HPV regardless of their sexual orientation.
I’ve heard a joke about the HPV vaccine, that HPV stands for “Help Pay For Vioxx” since Merck lost a ton of money on the Vioxx lawsuits. Plus, I’m pretty sure that it doesn’t cover all the strains of HPV that can cause cervical cancer, so if women aren’t informed (as in, they will still need pap smears), it could lead to a sense of false security.
I’m wondering - is this the only vaccine that’s been exclusively given to one sex? Since men can get it and carry it too, and I believe there’s evidence that they can get sick from it, then they should have to be vaccinated too. I’m not sure if anyone’s done research on it yet.
Even though I’m suspicious of it, on the other hand, I’m glad that people are finally paying attention to women’s health issues and how to prevent disease in women, instead of diverting all their funds to research and reach out to the menz.
I’m not an expert on immunology or on the HPV vaccine, but I think that quite a few vaccines have side effects. After all, some of them do use dead or even live (but attenuated) bacteria/viruses - so I’m guessing that even the weakened or inactive agent can stimulate inflammation and pain from the immune system’s reaction. Although it was way before my time, IIRC, the smallpox vaccine was fairly dangerous - that it could kill people with some conditions such as eczema, and that touching the injection site had the potential to spread to other parts of the body. Then again, as far as anyone knows, we’ve eradicated a horrible disease.
“But even better than that is the news that even if a doctor is convicted of a sexual offence, they may still be allowed to carry on practising.”
That is sick and boggles my mind. I don’t know how it can be justified. I don’t know if it is too vigilante, but maybe it wouldn’t be a bad idea to notify people if their doctor is a sex offender.
Thanks for the link Stormy and Polly!
Okay, back to topic of asshole male doctors and compulsory heterosexuality…
Unfortunately there’s no way patients can be informed of sex offences their doctor has committed LM because we don’t know - the register is secret. The patient’s association have suggested that any doctor who is convicted of an offence should be required to display that information in their surgery, which sounds like a very good idea to me. But why on earth should they be allow to continue practising anyway? Apparently it is an infringement of their ‘human rights’ to strike them off automatically. What about the human rights of the people they treat?
As I said, I know two women who’ve been sexually assaulted by a medical professional and they were both so shocked they didn’t report it (one was underage at the time also). Personally I insist on seeing women generally anyway, they are usually available for things like smear tests.
I’m not in the age group that are offered breast screening, but I would also kick up a huge stink if women weren’t being offered female staff there. It’s not just a case of being over sensitive, the woman who told me the story said there was a large muslim population in her area, and none of the women were accessing the service because it wasn’t all female. It’s just a ludicrous situation. If you are a male healthcare professional and care about your patients, why would you insist on working for a service when that guaranteed a lot of patients would miss out on that service. It’s not as if there aren’t a large number of alternative jobs about in the health service.
I think that the MALE technicians that insist it is *their right* to practice in this area are just pervy males. I’ve always had my suspicions on quite a few male gynaes.
Are there male gynaes who aren’t creepy then?
Oh I see Debs friend Dr Crippen has now got an American MD on who proves my theory perfectly. Apparently she’s an expert on English Law, despite the fact that she’s never studied it. Yes they definitely do have that special module at medical school…..
“Apparently it is an infringement of their ‘human rights’ to strike them off automatically. What about the human rights of the people they treat?”
Human rights? WTF? But of course, human rights only applies to the menz. It’s like people who are always worried about rapists’ civil rights and feelings. I am not pro-police state or anything, but what about the person that was raped? Urgh.
Oh and doctor loony is still insisting on her right to define English law in the face of um - English law - and insisting doctorz iz innocent. Has she ever heard of Dr Harold Shipman? Presumably she’d say he wasn’t guilty either……Well he WAS a doctor. I’m sure he was just carrying out a legitimate medical procedure when he injected 400 people with lethal doses of heroin.
I didn’t know Shipman used heroin. CowBlog is so educational!
LM, yes, the male techie’s right to do breast exams, the rapist’s right not to have his reputation ruined, pervy doctors that are sex offenders rights to practice… yes, their poooor widdle hoooman rights. Fuck the victims (usually wimmin and children) because they ain’t hoooman, therefore not entitled to the hooooman rights.
I really want to shoot people at times. They would be the scumbag people.
Or maybe just doctors (not doctor who obviously). Well it’s called diamorphine - but it’s the same stuff. They just don’t like to call it that because people go Oh noes - it’s an evol drug! Without realising it takes you quite a while to become addicted. Cigarettes are more addictive apparently.
Oh and I found this really good - 100% official - GMC comment on Shipman on the BBC….
“Harold Shipman was a competent but evil doctor”
Hmmm it really depends how you define competent doesn’t it. Some crazy people might think that competent doctors don’t go round bumping off their patients….
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/low/talking_point/forum/616743.stm
It was called heroin because when it was invented it was thought to be a heroic drug. And it is, it’s just that the government don’t like people taking it. If you get a decent medical supply it does a lot less harm than most legal drugs - one of Maggie Thatcher’s chief advisors (a doctor natch) took it for years….
http://www.channel4.com/news/articles/ontv/theinsider/heroin+on+the+nhs/649957
Actually I do agree with Dr Froggatt that the health service should prescribe heroin, it would cut crime greatly. And if people are going to take it they are better off with a decent supply than street crap…
I also agree in regards to prescribed heroin, both in relation to drugs related crimes and your insight regarding harm reduction.
“Prescribing heroin has largely eradicated the Swiss drug problem, with the average age for an addict rising to 40. Back in the UK, the opposite is happening. There is an explosion of heroin addiction amongst teenagers. As Dr Froggatt concludes, politicians need to be brave, and take similar measures to the Swiss if this country is to have any chance of moving on from 30 years of failure.”
One of the reasons I stopped working in the drugs field was due to the feeling that it was purely a “fire-fighting” exercise - which, you can only handle for a certain length of time. Shared, may I add, by many others.
The Govt need to wake up on this.
I have two illegal heroin related deaths in my family. One of the actual addict who died AFTER his mother had moved heaven and earth to get him into rehab (he jumped off a motorway bridge but survived amazingly). He got completely ‘clean’ then did the classic thing of meeting up with an old mate, using again once and overdosing because his body was no longer used to it (also of course street heroin isn’t of a reliable strength). And his mother who died at age 46 of cancer - and I don’t believe anyone who says that the onset of cancer isn’t linked to stressful life events.
It’s a complete scandal, the real reason behind drugs policy isn’t to prevent harm, or they’d make cigarettes illegal. It’s the fear that if we were all happy on illegal substances we wouldn’t be good little consumers/workers for the capitalist machine.
Just came across this (from Women’s Weekly News) on a doctor….
I am sure that he committed far more than the 11 he is accused of. Just a hunch.
I’m sure Dr Cretin would insist he wuz innocent though.
OMG that is horrific.
Yes it is horrific sparks, but similar things have happened to women I know. And they didn’t report it, either, because they were too shocked/intimidated/distressed. That’s why I think this kind of thing is probably a lot more common than we know about.
I’ve seen things personally with my work. It’s a hell of a lot more common than what people think.
These cases are a total abuse of power. When you are a nurse or a doctor (or other HC providers) you are awarded a hell of a lot of privilege because people believe and trust you. To take advantage of that privilege is sickening.
This is one of my pet hates btw…
It also seems to be EXTREMELY common in psychiatric medicine, I have to say, because it’s well known it’s easy to get away with assaulting/abusing a woman who has a diagnosis of mental illness. Because she is ‘crazy’ and won’t be believed as a witness. Which is exactly the stunt this guy seems to have pulled.
Yes it makes me livid as well….
Oh noes - we’d better stop, or we’ll be called hysterical!
You people are a disgrace.
If you had any perspective in your miserable lives you would soon realise that it goes the other way. Yes, I am not denying for one second that people in positions of power abuse their responsibility and inflict horrific things upon good people. But have you ever realised how easy it is for someone in the medical practice to be accused and prosecuted by someone who has mental or emotional health problems?
Think about the people’s lives that you are harming.
Whose life are we harming exactly? Who has been harmed as a result of this post on a blog? You know an actual person? Um nobody?
How easy is it for someone in the medical practice to be accused by someone who has mental or emotional problems? Not very I’d say. The GMC seem to have no problem with allowing convicted sex offenders - please note - that is CONVICTED sex offenders going on practising. Whereas it is all too easy for a doctor/medical professional, to claim that someone who accuses him of something is “mentally unstable” and get away with things. It seems that the GMC like to protect their own. And let us not forget that Dr Shipman murdered, it is estimated over 400 people before he was caught. Just one of a long list of medical murderers.
I think it’s you who need to get some perspective in your miserable life shocked, if you’re more bothered about what people write on blogs than sex offenders being allowed to practice medicine by the GMC, or doctors killing hundreds of people.
A ‘disgrace’ to whom ?
“If you had any perspective in your miserable lives you would soon realise that it goes the other way”
Which btw sound like a definitive?
On hand you agree that people in positions of power may abuse their power, but then go on to say that people with mental health problems can accuse these ‘powerful’ people with abuse. So what is the answer *shocked*
Patients advocacy - ‘harms people’s lives? I think not.
A disgrace to the good name of cowblog Sparks. Which is famed throughout the world for its erm - sarcasm - and containing the word ‘drunk’ a lot. As all my searches that aren’t about Dr Alan Tutin evince. Gosh I get a lot of searches for him, people are very keen on him, but his hearing isn’t scheduled to end until mid July. I just checked.
Oh and WRT to mental health and sexaul assault. The problem of women actually being assaulted/raped whilst in psychiatric hospital care has been widely noted. These cases are almost never prosecuted because the women are viewed as ‘unreliable’ witnesses due to their mental health status.
http://www.mind.org.uk/News+policy+and+campaigns/Press/AW2006-07-09_NPSA_data.htm
Precisely why women in these institutions are targetted, because they make ‘unreliable witnesses’ and the perp knows he can get away with it.
Indeed. It also accounts for the huge and almost completely ignored problem of elder abuse. I’ll write something about this when I get the chance.
Same deal really.
very grateful to you all i myself a victim no names no details but ure recent topic cuts deep and i find great comfort in knowing people out there understand so once again THANKYOU